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Is the National Party Finished? The Sorry Demise of Right Wing "Irish Nationalism"

Tadhg Gaelach

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Anyone watching the above video will understand that it's all over for the National Party. I've seen this process with several Republican groups. They start out with a lot of excitement and energy and big plans to push the Saxon into the sea. But, very soon they realize that the Irish people are not in the least bit interested in them or their big plans - then they start on shitty campaigns like shooting petty drug pushers to try and make themselves seem relevant to somebody - anybody.

This is exactly want we are seeing in this video. Barrett and Reynolds are decent men, but the only ones who were willing to join their party were idiots and knaves. And the Irish people were certainly not interested in what they had to offer. So, the idiots and the knaves get the great idea to make themselves relevant by launching an anti-Pedo campaign against the poll topper in Fingal, i.e. Minister Roderick O'Gorman. Hence we have the video above of a bewildered chap outside Leinster House wondering who he should give his letter to. Of course, he should throw it in the bin. Because that's exactly where it's going anyway.

To make matters worse, some of the real bottom feeding scum in the NP made a video claiming responsibility for the violence outside the Custom House, when a Yellow Vest demonstration was hi-jacked by Neo-Nazi thugs. That was the final nail in the coffin for the NP.

There's no need to talk about the so called "Irish Freedom Party" or the Gemmatards. They're more of a clown show than anything else. One thing they are good for, however, it making sure it's very difficult for any sane person to raise mass immigration. Because the minute you do, you'll be thrown in with this rabble - and thus regarded as not worth listening to.

Now that Trump has been so rounded defeated I expect that all this so called "Right Wing Populism" is over and done with. Boris Johnson has proven himself a total fraud. Bolsanaro is now a hated figure in Brazil. He certainly won't get a second term. The Neo-Nazi Coup has been defeated in Bolivia, and Venezuela, Cuba and the DPRK still stand proud. The tide has gone out for the National Party, I'm afraid.
 
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Of course, one only has to look at Stormfront Ireland to understand that there is zero intellectual energy in so called Right Wing Irish Nationalism. There's nothing there but bewildered eegits crying into their Bovril about how their Great Orange Hope was robbed.
 

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lol.. Intellectualism is being terrified of "Seppo", "Right-Wing" "You Tube" videos, believing everything RTÉ tells him about the virus hoax, and supporting every racist and mass murdering communist regime or person he can think of

- That is a very minimal description of @Tadhg Gaelach
 

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Exhibit Number One :rolleyes:
Walk us through it then...

Let's start with.. what have you got against;

Seppo (anti-American)
Right-Wing (anti-Political Opinion)
You Tube (anti-Anything that isn't the fake news media)

I mean, you'd qualify for a position in the Irish Times if you were more literate..and had the connections
 
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Do you believe that the NP is doing well?
This reminds of the (idiotic) idea that I read only the other day on the site you were banished from.

This idea, that a party, or a person should temper its idea.. So as to win voters.

No, it's the voter's mindset which needs to change, not the party's
 
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This reminds of the (idiotic) idea that I read only the other day on the site you were banished from.

This idea, that a party, or a person should temper its idea.. So as to win voters.

No, it's the voter's mindset which needs to change, not the party's


So you agree that starting a campaign against O'Gorman is really a sign of desperation?
 

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So you agree that starting a campaign against O'Gorman is really a sign of desperation?
You either support the NP because you know it's the only show in town.. Or you don't.

As far as O'Gorman is concerned, he is a minion of Satan, as all progressives are, it matters nothing to me how one might attack him. Within the law, of course
 
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You either support the NP because you know it's the only show in town.. Or you don't.

As far as O'Gorman is concerned, he is a minion of Satan, as all progressives are, it matters nothing to me how one might attack him. Within the law, of course


I think you're missing the whole point of the OP. This campaign against O'Gorman is actually an admission of defeat by the NP.
 

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I think you're missing the whole point of the OP. This campaign against O'Gorman is actually an admission of defeat by the NP.
Did I? Well, no one takes you seriously anyway.

You're gone, mentally gone. Leftism has turned your brain to mush
 
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Did I? Well, no one takes you seriously anyway.

You're gone, mentally gone. Leftism has turned your brain to mush


Nationalism in Ireland has always been Left Wing in nature. It's clear that the little experiment with Right Wing Nationalism has totally failed. So, any serious Irish Nationalists must now consider how to build a Left Wing Nationalist Movement.
 

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Nationalism in Ireland has always been Left Wing in nature. It's clear that the little experiment with Right Wing Nationalism has totally failed. So, any serious Irish Nationalists must now consider how to build a Left Wing Nationalist Movement.
Once again - Lying

This is the year 2020

Sure, Irish nationalists (of old) may have been (somewhat) left-wing, socialist whatever.

But I repeat, this is the current year. Grow up old man (although I think it's almost impossible to tell whether you're 14 or 84) and smell the coffee
 

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Once again - Lying

This is the year 2020

Sure, Irish nationalists (of old) may have been (somewhat) left-wing, socialist whatever.

But I repeat, this is the current year. Grow up old man (although I think it's almost impossible to tell whether you're 14 or 84) and smell the coffee

Nationalism because of it's collectivist character is always going to tend to be if not Socialistic at least socially minded economically.
 

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Now that Trump has been so rounded defeated I expect that all this so called "Right Wing Populism" is over and done with. Boris Johnson has proven himself a total fraud. Bolsanaro is now a hated figure in Brazil. He certainly won't get a second term. The Neo-Nazi Coup has been defeated in Bolivia, and Venezuela, Cuba and the DPRK still stand proud. The tide has gone out for the National Party, I'm afraid.

You are forgetting the question of France which is very complex- the person I am friends with in France is a Petainist who would join Alain Sorals group only doing so would get her fired from her job, she HATES Marine Le Pen much more than she hates Macron because of Marine Le Pens fag hagism, accepting the historical narrative of Laicite, reducing French Nationalism to hating Muslims (she is an Islamophile- but even still she has a very strong point here, that is what Marine Le Pen has done), throwing anyone with any principles both on the Right and the Left out of the FN- her family on both sides were in the FN since 1973. Basically she has reduced French Nationalism to cultural and economic Neo-Liberalism with more Muslim baiting which is why Macron will be able to destroy her. That is "Right wing Populism".

Also I am not sure at all that the NP can be considered "National Populist" as such. I have a lot of empathy for people like Conal, Machusla, ShumanTheHuman, Zosimus and DrPat over on Pish. I completely understand where they are coming from and enjoy talking to them more than I do with Liberals. However the reality is that the NP is set to become something akin to the Legion of St George in England where basically like minded people get together and moan. Now I do get perverse pleasure myself from moaning with like minded people. Republican Sinn Fein is basically a club for like minded people to get together and moan as well as far as I can see.
 
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It's telling that this was a lone act, the National Party had a fantastic opportunity to continue building on popularity. COVID has certainly taken the wind out of their sails due to the lack of any immigration discussion, that said with the Brexit controversy about to unfold they could have focused on real Irish independence away from the EU and our own trade deals with the UK and others.
 

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Of course, one only has to look at Stormfront Ireland to understand that there is zero intellectual energy in so called Right Wing Irish Nationalism. There's nothing there but bewildered eegits crying into their Bovril about how their Great Orange Hope was robbed.
Isn't this just nationalism in general, talk a good talk but go soft when a fight is needed.
 
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You are forgetting the question of France which is very complex- the person I am friends with in France is a Petainist who would join Alain Sorals group only doing so would get her fired from her job, she HATES Marine Le Pen much more than she hates Macron because of Marine Le Pens fag hagism, accepting the historical narrative of Laicite, reducing French Nationalism to hating Muslims (she is an Islamophile- but even still she has a very strong point here, that is what Marine Le Pen has done), throwing anyone with any principles both on the Right and the Left out of the FN- her family on both sides were in the FN since 1973. Basically she has reduced French Nationalism to cultural and economic Neo-Liberalism with more Muslim baiting which is why Macron will be able to destroy her. That is "Right wing Populism".

Also I am not sure at all that the NP can be considered "National Populist" as such. I have a lot of empathy for people like Conal, Machusla, ShumanTheHuman, Zosimus and DrPat over on Pish. I completely understand where they are coming from and enjoy talking to them more than I do with Liberals. However the reality is that the NP is set to become something akin to the Legion of St George in England where basically like minded people get together and moan. Now I do get perverse pleasure myself from moaning with like minded people. Republican Sinn Fein is basically a club for like minded people to get together and moan as well as far as I can see.


A very insightful post a chara. Yes, that's precisely what RSF is. And every time they are on the move and getting young people to join - they do something to subvert themselves and they are back to being a tiny rump who's only pleasure is complaining. But, there is a fundamental different between RSF and the NP. RSF can rest on a huge Republican tradition. The NP doesn't have that luxury. If it isn't relevant in the here and now, then it effectively doesn't exist. Mass immigration is an issue that should have gained them significant support, but like RSF they subvert themselves at the first sign of any popularity. This bogus campaign against Roderick O'Gorman is actually only getting them contempt.
 
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Nationalism because of it's collectivist character is always going to tend to be if not Socialistic at least socially minded economically.


Very true, and because of Ireland's particular history, Irish Nationalism will always be anti-imperialist and have a natural solidarity with anti-colonial struggles in Africa, Asia and South America. The "White Nationalism" that we see over on Stormfront Ireland is really poorly disguised West Britism. It's a desire to be included in the ranks of the Anglo-Saxons. An infantile desire to be included among the perpetrators rather than the victims of colonialism.
 

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