Rumbling of dissafection in the Greens

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Not that simple. That will work for those only here a certain amount of time. You then delve into the murky field of UNHCR Article 8 rights. Can you just imagine the legal fees involved for Initiating a process for deporting All those people.
I agree with you.. it's not really an option (we're a member of too many clubs and signatory to too many treaties) but it's what should happen.
 

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125,000 is more like it, the country is crawling with them.
Oh I see you pulled this out of your hole. There is not even that many people from outside the EU here.
 
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I agree with the Greens on migration but on nothing else.

Immigration is great as long as it is gender balanced and does not introduce extremists or contagious disease.

The problem in Ireland is not too many migrants. It is our huge indigenous welfare class of useless parasites.

In Dublin one often sees hard-working non-nationals stepping over Irish junkies (a.k.a "the homeless") begging for change. These are the people who should be deported to Libya in small rubber boats.
 
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I agree with the Greens on migration but on nothing else.

Immigration is great as long as it is gender balanced and does not introduce extremists or contagious disease.

The problem in Ireland is not too many migrants. It is our huge indigenous welfare class of useless parasites.

In Dublin one often sees hard-working non-nationals stepping over Irish junkies (a.k.a "the homeless") begging for change. These are the people who should be deported to Libya in small rubber boats.
Immigration is great as long as it is gender balanced and does not introduce extremists or contagious disease and all the immigrants are hard-working.

Now, that's pretty mindless in itself but I just wanted to ask you what fucking planet do you live on?
 

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Immigration is great as long as it is gender balanced and does not introduce extremists or contagious disease and all the immigrants are hard-working.

Now, that's pretty mindless in itself but I just wanted to ask you what fucking planet do you live on?
Hey. Less of the personal insults. Play the ball not the man.
 
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Immigration is great as long as it is gender balanced and does not introduce extremists or contagious disease and all the immigrants are hard-working.

Now, that's pretty mindless in itself but I just wanted to ask you what fucking planet do you live on?
And btw, I've seen this argument a thousand times - I think immigration is great as long as it's great. How is that not just empty-headed nonsense?
 
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I agree with the Greens on migration but on nothing else.

Immigration is great as long as it is gender balanced and does not introduce extremists or contagious disease.

The problem in Ireland is not too many migrants. It is our huge indigenous welfare class of useless parasites.

In Dublin one often sees hard-working non-nationals stepping over Irish junkies (a.k.a "the homeless") begging for change. These are the people who should be deported to Libya in small rubber boats.
Another argument of course is.. ^ This aas..eh person would deport his own fucking people over blow-ins based on the amount of money they make, how much they contribute to the economy. Fucking. Sick.
 
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Another argument of course is.. ^ This aas..eh person would deport his own fucking people over blow-ins based on the amount of money they make, how much they contribute to the economy. Fucking. Sick.
Irish welfare spongers should be rounded up, shipped to Libya and sold in the ISIS slave-market for €1000 per head.

Replacing indigenous parasites with migrants who are keen to work hard and get ahead in their adopted country would be a major upgrade.

A win-win-win.
 
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Irish welfare spongers should be rounded up, shipped to Libya and sold in the ISIS slave-market for €1000 per head.

Replacing indigenous parasites with migrants who are keen to work hard and get ahead in their adopted country would be a major upgrade.

A win-win.
Yes, everything to you is about the economy, money. I'd ship you out in a heartbeat instead and give a homeless Irish person your home.
 
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Yes, everything to you is about the economy, money. I'd ship you out in a heartbeat instead and give a homeless Irish person your home.
... and by all means please feel free to tell us how your utopian version of immigration actually exists.. or go back to reading the Guardian
 

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I stopped voting for the Greens when Ryan came up. He is one of the old guard. Makes a career in politics and does not give much about the green idea.
You cannot separate the social aspect from the ecological aspect.
Someone suggesting a big tax on carbon but not giving a damn about those with a low income is clearly not needed at the top of that party.
I am looking forward to Ms. Val's leadership.
A FG/FF/Green coalition is good for no one. FF and FG need to go- both parties bankrupted the state. The last time the greens actually helped to do that.
We need a very different government. SF being part of it. With probably lots of left wing TDs and Independents.
We need something what we never had before- to throw out the old trash!
You are right on throwing out the old trash on FF and FG I agree. However I claim that the Irish people are incapable of voting intelligently and therefor any new government without FF an FG will crash the economy in 6 months. Ireland is finished and it cannot be cured.
 
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You are right on throwing out the old trash on FF and FG I agree. However I claim that the Irish people are incapable of voting intelligently and therefor any new government without FF an FG will crash the economy in 6 months. Ireland is finished and it cannot be cured.
Why not give it a try?
What could go wrong?
FF/FG fucked up the country already. SF cannot be worse!
We need a fresh new start. We do not need more of the same shit!
 
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Why not give it a try?
What could go wrong?
FF/FG fucked up the country already. SF cannot be worse!
We need a fresh new start. We do not need more of the same shit!
That's the absolute tragedy of the situation.. Globalist SF may well be the "nationalist" alternative next.. Ireland tick tock. More years wasted.
 

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We are a very successful country by and large thanks to the policies of FF and FG. The last thing we need is the Shinners cocking it up with their socialist BS>

"Successful country"....let us see:

Tens of thousands of people have no home and have to live on the streets.
Young people and people without money totally locked out of the housing market. For their entire life, if there is no change in the housing policy.
Health sector is only available for the rich. All others are shoved on waiting lists and ignored.
Environmental policies are a desaster. Most rivers and water streams are polluted. Agricultural practices like spreading large amounts of slurry make people sick...while farmers cash in on their crimes.
Rural Ireland has been abandoned and is getting handed over to foreigners who pick up the pieces and put new life into destroyed communities.
Our national debt is north of 240 billion- and getting northier by the second!
Illegal immigration has become rampant.
Corruption has become a way of life in Ireland.
I could go on and on and on.

Do you want to know more about " a very successfull country"?
 
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Rural Ireland has been abandoned and is getting handed over to foreigners who pick up the pieces and put new life into destroyed communities.
Oh ffs
 
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